Fact Check

John Adams Said 'There Are Two Ways to Conquer and Enslave a Country'?

Snopes reviewed archival records to find the truth behind the memes promoting the quote.

Published April 9, 2024

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Claim:
John Adams once said, "There are two ways to conquer and enslave a country. One is by the sword. The other is by debt."

On April 5, 2024, the Wall Street Silver (@wallstreetsilv) account on X posted a meme claiming former U.S. President John Adams once said or wrote, "There are two ways to conquer and enslave a country. One is by the sword. The other is by debt."

The same user previously shared the quote on Jan. 31, 2023.

We also found a Facebook post from January 2013 displaying the quote with Adams' name attached. It received more than 55,000 shares.

However, there's no evidence the nation's second president ever said or wrote these words.

Despite a complete lack of proof the quote came from Adams, readers can still easily find in a Google search a seemingly endless number of websites giving attribution to him for these words.

A search of the database on Google Books showed the oldest printing of the quote in written literature appeared to be from 2009. Meanwhile, the earliest mention of the quote in newspaper archives on newspapers.com was from 2012. As for the earliest mention anywhere, CheckYourFact.com reported in 2019 BarryPopik.com found an entry with the quote and Adams' name from as far back as 2002.

For a man who died in 1826, these findings weren't exactly reassuring.

Like many quotes published online, this one appeared to have been born on the internet, long after the person being named had died.

CheckYourFact.com also received word from Sara Martin, who was described as being the editor-in-chief of the Adams Papers at the Massachusetts Historical Society. Martin said, "While the sentiment of this quotation is in keeping with John Adams, we have found no direct evidence Adams ever wrote it." This information showed up in Twitter's Community Notes under the tweet from @wallstreetsilv.

As for other debunkings, back in 2010, Gary North of the Gary North's Specific Answers website also wrote that Adams never said these words. North then published a second article where he carefully explained why it wouldn't matter if a bunch of search results said someone once said something. It's documentary evidence that matters, not search results, North contended.

And he was right.

Over the years, we've found many websites claiming to collect quotes from famous people are extremely unreliable. They usually contain no attribution whatsoever. However, the quotes are still believed by some users.

Imagine a dinner with friends where a discussion is going on about whether a quote really came from a specific person. Someone at the table might perform a quick Google search, hold up their phone, and point to the top result from a quote-collecting website, even though such a website contains no sourced historical records.

Unreliable quote websites are kind of like the pages that claim to publish the net worths of various celebrities. Such figures often appear above Google search results as a snippet, as if that area at the top displays authoritative information. However, a quick review of the fine print on the websites where the net worth dollar figure was sourced will often say they're nothing more than estimates. In other words, it's not reliable.

We're not advocating for correcting friends at dinner about unimportant matters with an "actually …" declaration. What we are saying, however, is Adams never said the quote about conquering and enslaving a country by sword or debt.

Sources

Atienza, Elias. "FACT CHECK: Did John Adams Say, 'There Are Two Ways To Conquer And Enslave A Nation. One Is By Sword. The Other Is By Debt'?" CheckYourFact.com, 29 Oct. 2019, https://checkyourfact.com/2019/10/29/fact-check-john-adams-conquer-enslave-nation-sword-debt-quote/.

Google Books. https://books.google.com/.

"John Adams | Miller Center." The Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, https://millercenter.org/president/adams.

Popik, Barry. "Entry from December 08, 2009: 'There Are Two Ways to Conquer and Enslave a Nation. One Is by the Sword. The Other Is by Debt.'" BarryPopik.com, 8 Dec. 2009, https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/there_are_two_ways_to_conquer_and_enslave_a_nation_one_is_by_the_sword_the.

Newspapers.com, https://www.newspapers.com/.

Jordan Liles is a Senior Reporter who has been with Snopes since 2016.