Fact Check

Nordstrom Tire Return

Did a man get a refund for a snow tire from Nordstrom, a store that doesn't sell tires?

Published Jul 10, 2001


Claim:   A determined shopper once recouped a refund for a tire from Nordstrom, a clothier that has never sold tires.



[Home Office Computing, 1994]

Here's a true story to prove the power of unconditional guarantees: About a dozen years ago, a guy walked into the former Fairbanks, Alaska, Nordstrom department store with two snow tires. He walked up to the tire counter, put the tires down, and asked for his money back. The clerk, who'd been working there for two weeks, saw the price on the side of the tires, reached into the cash register, and handed the man $145.

[Newsweek, 1989]

The customer wanted to return a tire. Never mind that the Nordstrom department-store chain sells upscale clothing, not automotive parts. According to company lore, the clerk accepted the tire because that's what the customer wanted.


Origins:   This is possibly the greatest consumer relations story of modern times — it's certainly pointed to as such in a multitude of business articles. In this one simple vignette is captured the essence of what it takes to build and maintain a loyal client base: The customer is always right . . . even when he's provably wrong.

Nordstrom began in Seattle in 1901 as a shoe store and grew into largest independent shoe chain in the United States. It was not until 1963 that Nordstrom expanded into the clothing market to become the renowned nationwide fashion specialty chain it is today.

Nordstrom has become synonymous with customer service in a way no other chain of stores has, with the "tire refund" legend doing its part to


bolster that image. Nordstrom customers receive 'thank you' cards for shopping there. Unusual requests are handled with aplomb by a knowledgeable sales staff. Staffers have been known to hand-deliver special orders to customers' homes or even to obtain specialty merchandise from other stores for customers who ask for those items. Those looking to return merchandise are not challenged to produce sales slips or Nordstrom price tags for items which are clearly Nordstrom stock.

Which brings us back to our "returned tire" legend — did it happen? The chain's liberal return policy exists to assist Nordstrom customers who have purchased merchandise that has proved unsuitable for their needs; it's not there to provide a dumping ground for whatever items shoppers might have purchased elsewhere. Under this policy, items that could have been bought at Nordstrom are accepted without question, but requests for refunds for items that could not have come from this retailer are turned down.

Nordstrom has never sold tires: It vends clothing and shoes, items highly unlikely to be mistaken for automotive goods. Yet, according to a 1995 book about the company, the tire story is true:

Some legitimate "heroic" stories sound apocryphal. Perhaps the most famous one — which the national press frequently cites — is the tale of the salesperson who gladly took back a set of automobile tires and gave the customer a refund. Nordstrom has never sold tires, but the story is true. In 1975, Nordstrom acquired three stores in Alaska from the Northern Commercial Company, which did sell tires. So, when the customer — who had purchased the tires from Northern Commercial — brought them back to Nordstrom, the return was accepted. Nevertheless, the hyperbole reinforces the point and nurtures the mythology.1

Should that claim be believed? On the one hand, someone who asserts he was there when it happened swears to it: John Nordstrom has been quoted as saying the customer seemed a bit confused but sincere, so the salesman gave him his $25 back, thanked him for coming in, and invited him back to shop:

More often, though, the company's image was burnished by the service of its sales staff, such as the time in mid-1970s when a salesman in Fairbanks took back a $25 automobile tire, even though Nordstrom didn't sell tires. Nordstrom had just expanded into a building that had been a tire store, said John Nordstrom, who was there that day. The customer seemed a bit confused but sincere, so the Nordstrom salesman gave him his $25 back and thanked him for coming in and invited him back to shop, John Nordstrom said.2

On the other hand, John Nordstrom, who says he was there, claims the legendary refund incident took place in a converted tire store. Northern Commercial Company (NCC) operated department stores, auto dealerships, and tire centers in Alaska, and in 1974 NCC sold three of those properties (in Anchorage, Fairbanks, and Kenai) to Nordstrom. However, according to the Alaska Commercial Company (the parent of the NCC chain), the stores it sold to Nordstrom were already department stores, not tire stores, so the notion that a customer confused a new Nordstrom outlet for what had previously been a tire store doesn't quite gibe. (It's possible that the older NCC department store included a tire department, but we haven't been able to verify that


This claim of someone having actually witnessed the incident is apparently only a recent phenomenon. The Nordstrom "tire refund" tale has been recounted in numerous pieces about the company, many from the mid-1980s, yet these far earlier sightings fail to make mention of the additional details now claimed, that this happened in 1975, in a newly-opened store that had previously housed a tire shop, and with a member of the Nordstrom family present.

Moreover, a 26 December 1988 Washington Post article said of the legend: "Although Nordstrom officials insist that the tire story is apocryphal, it does make a point about the Seattle-based chain's generous return policies." More plainly, in 1988 the company insisted the tale was lore, not reality, but in 1995 one of its people began saying he saw it happen.

Also, even in those sightings from mid-1980 and onwards, the details of the incident vary wildly:

  • The item(s) being returned is said to be (in various versions) a tire, a used tire, a set of tires, a set of snow tires, a set of radial tires, two snow tires, four tires, or a pair of tires.
  • The tires are usually returned to an unidentified Nordstrom outlet, but they're sometimes reportedly returned to a Nordstrom in Alaska or Fairbanks, Alaska (because they're snow tires), or a Nordstrom in Seattle (because that's where Nordstrom is based).
  • Sometimes the customer makes no statement as to why he is returning the tires to Nordstrom, but sometimes he claims they were bought at Nordstrom (even though they don't sell tires), or bought in the same building (but not at Nordstrom itself). The customer offers no reason for wanting a refund, except for one version in which he states that the tire "had not stood up properly".
  • Prior to the account recently proffered by John Nordstrom, no specific (or even general) date is given for this incident; the most precise date offered is "a dozen years ago."
  • The amount of the refund is usually unmentioned. However, one Nordstrom apparently gave a refund of $145 total for two snow tires, while another one paid out $125 each for four tires. In John Nordstrom's account, it's down to $25.
  • The mechanism for determining the refund value of the tires is usually not described (the implication being that the customer's word is accepted, no questions asked). But at least one clerk "saw the price on the side of the tires," and another asked the customer "What did you pay for them?"
  • Giving a refund for an item clearly not purchased at Nordstrom is all in a day's work for their model employees, something to be expected. One lucky clerk, though, was "praised by management," while another was appointed an "Employee of the Year" (as were all his supervisors).

The wide variation in details coupled with the outright denial from the company in 1988 cast doubt on the 1995 John Nordstrom account. At this impasse, common sense has to be consulted to see what guidance, if any, it has to offer.

It's 1975, and you live in Alaska. You're unhappy with one of the tires you recently purchased, so you head back to the tire store you bought it from. Do you fail to notice that this space is now occupied by a seller of high-class men's, women's, and children's clothing and shoes? Do you continue to mistake this clothing shop for a tire store, and instead stand there insisting that they make things right by refunding your money?

Common sense says even the most brain-dead of customers is going to notice at least some slight differences between a tire emporium and an upscale clothier's, not the least of which is the smell. (Tire shops have a peculiar scent all their own.) Common sense also says few (if any) clerks faced with such a request wouldn't dazedly respond, "Well, there used to be a tire shop here, but we just bought the building from them."

Could such a customer have genuinely mistaken a Nordstrom for a tire shop? We don't think so. Could a customer intent upon testing Nordstrom's famed return policy have come in rolling a tire in front of him, playing at being confused for the sake of a bar story? It certainly lies within the realm of possibility, but the much stronger possibility is that the incident was as Nordstrom described it in 1988: apocryphal.

Interestingly, Nordstrom is not the only firm to lay claim to the legend, as this passage from Built From Scratch, a history of Home Depot, shows. The speaker is Bernie Marcus:

That reminds me of a story about our executive vice president of operations and group president, Larry Mercer, that became legendary within the company:

One day, a man came into one of our Atlanta stores with a set of automobile tires, demanding a refund. The Home Depot doesn't sell tires - never did, even when we sold some other automotive supplies - so the person running the service desk called Mercer for help.

"Sir," Mercer said, "if you bought them here, what did you pay for them?"

The man named a figure. Mercer reached into the cash register and handed the man the exact amount without another word.

Then Mercer hung the tires over the service desk to remind everybody: "The customer is always right."3

Barbara "tire mire" Mikkelson

Sightings:   In an episode of the television sitcom Cybill ("The Big, Flouncy Thing," original air date 29 September 1997), when Zoey asks about returning to a store a dress Cybill snipped a decorative feature from, Maryann replies "Oh, pish. I've returned snow tires here."

Last updated:   25 April 2011


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