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Comment: I am the creator of Mario artworks and other cartoons that were used without my permission. Who did'nt spell Louigi wrong? did the ones who took my artworks spell it another way? I am making a point, It is hard for you to understand I am not an english major, but an artist that was used, I don't know anything about games,or law. I don't play vidio games they are ok for some I guess. I love art, and as I said before I am an artist, not someone trying to be a part of game sales or otherwise. I mean that in a kind way. To each his own. I do not mean to offend anybody. I don't know how the modern world and computers work, I'm almost 50 years old. I am a very simple man and artist that created a group of cartoons that made a mark around the world. I am glad that they make so many happy. I don't just smell money for my artworks,It would be nice,I feel a reward for being the one that created the artworks. I just most of all want to let people know I am the artist who created Mario because it is only fair to the people. I don't know who took my artworks, I did'nt know about the way a pack industry could take my artworks and claim them as their own. I don't know who too what. I just know they took my artworks and claim they did'nt. All I have to say is that I created somthing with a small box of colors and a simple scrible pad for less than a dollar and made a giant that I am not know for. Mario, Louigi, maybe I spelled it the way an artist paints, no rules, Princess Peach, Donkey kong, ditty kong, I don't care how you spell the names the point is I am glad that my artworks went around the world. I am sorry if you feel I am in your space I think it would be nice to understand each other. I want you to know the real Mario creator myself, because someone else claims to be. It is only fair to you and the rest of the world. I know its hard to understand and believe, or even care, I don't get anything out of this just a bash here and there. Why would I want to tell a lie? I am better than that, I know you think I want money, I don't have much but I earned it. It is'nt much but I can tell you I don't have to work. I live in comfort but of course I'm not rich. I told my wife many years ago money is not everything, there are other things like health and being happy, and art is not everything just a part of me. I understand people find it hard to believe. Its ok, I will always live with the fact that my art was used without my permission. I hope you understand , what if you were in my shoes? and nobody would believe you one of the greatest artist of all times.
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Uh-huh. Maybe nobody believes you because : 1.) You can't spell 2.) You have gotten the names of "your own" characters wrong repeatedly 3.) It's not true 4.) If it was you would know the vast amount of character changes those characters have gone through over nearly thirty years, so much so that they only vaguely resemble their original forms 5.) You're a troll 6.) You're a liar 7.) You're an attention whore
Some people don't know when to give up. Most of them seem to write comments to Snopes. -_-;;
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: ...nobody would believe you one of the greatest artist of all times.
WTF? Someone call the Louvre, they've got the wrong peoples' paintings up.
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I believe this guy. I too am an artist that was ripped off by the video game industry. I did the original artwork for the paddles in Pong. I never recieved any compensation or recognization! I know what this artist is going through.
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quote:I too am an artist that was ripped off by the video game industry. I did the original artwork for the paddles in Pong. I never recieved any compensation or recognization!
I invented the electron. By my calculations, I'm owed over $6 quintillion in royalties.
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YOMANK the lot of you! But I invented the gap in between the electrons so cough up!
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I represent none of the above. Many react the same, they can't handle the fact that Mario was created by an artist that they did not know about. They thought they knew everthting, so they dump their anger on me the real creator of Mario, and have no idea how wrong they are. I think they all have a narrow mind as it is, I feel they are just helping someone who used my artworks without my permission promote a lie. I think the comments made, about the fact I am the real Mario artist are very sad and when you say somthing low is don't make you funny or when you are rude it make you point diminish.
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Yes welcome. And a question. Based on your profile, would this be you?
Explains a lot I think.
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Hey guys, I don't remember this artist fellow. Can anyone give me a link to the thread? Was he raving about Mario and freinds before?
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quote:Originally posted by resEnoveliciousLution: Hey guys, I don't remember this artist fellow. Can anyone give me a link to the thread? Was he raving about Mario and freinds before?
Yes, he's as much a regular as one can be in "We've got mail!"
quote:Originally posted by Gibbie: Yes welcome. And a question. Based on your profile, would this be you?
Explains a lot I think.
Gibbie
Hmmm..the name is the same, the location is the same, and the age matches (from profile.)
To apachearrow:
How did they get your drawings? Did you enter them in a contest? Did you work for the company? Was your house broken into and the drawings stolen? I'm just confused on how they even acquired your drawings unless you gave them to the company or sold them.
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apachearrow
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The drawings were created in the 70's by me. I did not work for a company, Mario was a friend of mine when we were kids, so I used his image to create the cartoon Mario.I created others of the games as a way to help relax and help ease the mental problems that began in the military. I did'nt create the games.The way my artworks were used without my permission, may have been by way of trusting people who said they may be able to promote my artworks. I sent Mario,in care of an aquantiance along with the Mushroom kingdom and others to be evaluated by by an artist in California, who may have used or sold them. They could have also been used by an artist's I met working with in the U.S. forrest service, I met several artist who came to my home, they were student art majors, of Los Cruces New Mexico that may have stolen my artworks. I had several copies of Mario and each artwork. I did'nt know how they could be stolen, I trusted people. I was young and did'nt know about copyright infrengment and never realized how big my artworks would become. To answer the question I never gave my artworks away, sold them or worked for an art company. My profile is true. I'm not nuts, I have issues. I worked 30 years with a mental condition, and retired in about 1997. I never continued to fight the case with the Veterans Administration, I just gave up because my heart could'nt take the pressure as I ended up in a cardiac unit. I am ok, and continue to be an artist at home with my wife and two sons, I really don't care about my status being plastered all over the internet but it don't matter to me, I think a lot of artists are sort of out there, it don't mean that they are out of it.
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A few questions if I may...
1. If you don't care about getting money, then why make such a fuss about it?
2. Why are you telling us? Do you want snopes to say that whoever is "supposed" to have created said artwork is an urban legend?
3. Can you show us some of the original drawings to prove yourself?
And something I would like to point out... "I really don't care about my status being plastered all over the internet." I think we figured that out after seeing the several sites you have posted your rant on. Noone here is doing this to you, you are plastering yourself.
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I didnt say you plastered anything on the internet. I am saying this because,I also don't care what anyone says about me.It's called freedom of speach it 's also somthing that could be interesting to some people.I think it's only proper for the ones who are interested to know the truth, if your not, it dont matter to me ,just dont feel like I twisted you arm to read it because I did'nt. No, money is not my forte. It's ok, the truth about me being the artist that created Mario, to be known by millinons is more valuable to me. I don't feel it I have to prove anything to anyone. Also Im not after anything,I would like people to know the truth as I said, you can take it for what its worth. Im not talking about my posted, what you call "rant" Im talkin about what was a matter of federal court documents, that as you may understand have been plastered on the internet, origionally by whom I have said,was I don't know and when it really comes down to it don't care what people plaster about me even if it is true. I'm an artist, thats all, this is not a war it could be considered basic communication.
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Most people I know apply pencils and paints to paper and other surfaces for theirs. This must be some form of conceptual art.
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apachearrow
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Yes, I do, and I have for a lifetime, I also like the history of art, and not only apply art as a form but also look at art.
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apachearrow
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I love the art of De Grazia I think that how you spell it, I saw alot of his art in Tuson, and I read some books about him.
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apachearrow
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Time to relax, you guys wear me out maybe some art to unwind, nice diatrib.
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I think the initiation can be omitted in this case, I don't see this lasting long.
I'm another on the list that wants to see the *ahem* original art.
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It was stolen from me, Sorry, I wish I had it too. I have dots that can connect facts. I spoke to a copyright infrengment attorney from El Sugundo,Ca. don't stand much of a chance, I do have a Mushroom kingdom art work from about thirty years ago. It could be of some help. I spend alot of time with resources that focus on now not the past. It may be somthing that I have spent too much time on. I do have other art and need to express myself, so I may just be better off not spending too much energy in fighting a corperation who used my art without my permission , quite a few years ago. I threw in the towel I got tired of fighting. I just try to tell people I am the artist that created Mario, and others because I feel cheated as an artist. I know I am not the only artist who has had their artworks used without permission, I am not hiding the fact that I can't back it up, if I could I would have a long time ago. I just hold on the the fact that I can let it be known. Someone decieved a lot of people, when they claimed my artworks.
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quote:I am not hiding the fact that I can't back it up, if I could I would have a long time ago.
Hum...
1) I have a "fact" that I can't back up but you can take my word for it. 2) Snopes.com is a site dedicated to debunking stories where you have to take someone's word for it without backing anything up. 3) Therefore, I will repeatedly contact snopes.com in order for them to help validate my claim...
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And Nintendo was even sneaky enough not to name Mario until the second game he appeared in. As if not having the adventures taking place in the mushroom kingdom until the game Super Mario Brothers came out wasn't underhanded enough.
You're going to have to do better than this. Specifically, details on the design of the characters, whatever history you had thought up, what your mushroom kingdom was like, names of people who might have stolen your art and sold it to Nintendo, and maybe a reasoning as to why it was sold to a japanese company by americans, and why said company first altered the character by calling it Jumpman, giving him a different enemy and a different girlfriend, in a different land, to later revert to your original concepts.
I could waltz in here and claim that I was the one who created Harry Potter. I could even provide you with a storyline for whole serie and a few notes and sketches. I would only have to make sure even the beginning of it (corresponding to the first five books) is just similar enough to what J.K. Rowling wrote to be familiar, and different enough so that the sixth and seven books wouldn't be expected to match my storyline either. I'd be one step ahead of you in my ridiculous claim. I'd just have to keep repeating I'm not doing it for the money, just for the credit, and hope that someone would eventually offer me a few millions to shut me up.
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Sorry, I'm not buying it. I've adopted the motto from where I live. Show me the proof.
As far as I'm concerned, Nintendo came out with Mario and Luigi and that's where it'll stay. It sounds more like a bunch of bunk from a disgruntled ex-Nintendo employee who has nothing better to do than lay claims.
And something that I didn't see - how do we really know is is YOUR artwork if we do see proof? How do we know you didn't buy it from Ebay?
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Sorry, apachearrow, as everyone else has said, your claim just doesn't hold up. According to wordiq.com (also known as Wikipedia), here's how Mario's distinctive look came to be:
Mario's distinctive look is due to technology restrictions in the mid-80's: with a limited number of pixels and colours, the programmers couldn't animate Mario's movement without making his arms "disappear" if his shirt was a solid colour, they didn't have the space to give him a mouth, and they couldn't animate hair, so Mario got overalls, a moustache, and a cap to bypass these problems.
Now, refute that.
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apachearrow
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I'm glad you have strong opinions ,I agree that facts are necessary and should always be a standard for proof. I'm not trying to make proof of the fact that I created Mario. You are welcome to not believe me. I am still telling the truth. As far as it goes, I can say the same thing in reverse, how can you prove I did'nt create Mario artworks? In the many years I have told people, about my artworks being stolen, most have been in favor of the belief that what they see and have been told first is the absalute truth. I can't answer most of you questions because I don't really know who took my artworks and how they ended up in the hands of Nintendo, and whom ever else. If you look back in the history of Urban Legends, and find donkeykong as called Donkeywrong you will see that somthing could be very fishy. Nintendo is a giant, they have a team of people to protect their group. Why would'nt they it involves alot of jobs and money. As far as shuting me up they dont,I have made contact with them, they state they will no longer respond to me, because they know for a fact that I am telling the truth. Mario was a person, so was Princess Peach, and Luigi as you spell it. They were people that I met and knew, the others were the work of an artist who made his mark, myself. So with that I hope you can understand a little better that its ok to feel the way you do, and its ok because you are free to believe or not believe what ever you want,and It's ok I understand.
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quote:how can you prove I did'nt create Mario artworks?
We don't have to prove anything; you're the one making the claims. It's up to you to provide proof, and so far you haven't.
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quote:how can you prove I did'nt create Mario artworks?
We don't have to prove anything; you're the one making the claims. It's up to you to provide proof, and so far you haven't.
Actually, Nintendo has documentation on the creation of Mario and friends. That's their proof. Their word, plus documentation. All you have is your word, no documentation.
Therefore, on the base of evidence available, Nintendo is the original creator of Mario and friends. Since there can only be one original source, and everything points to Nintendo being it, I'm afraid this is proof that you aren't the original creator.
If you want to bring additional evidences to the case so that the conclusion be invalidated, go ahead.
quote:Originally posted by apachearrow: If you look back in the history of Urban Legends, and find donkeykong as called Donkeywrong you will see that somthing could be very fishy.
"Donkey Wrong" is merely the title of the page, and googling that alternate name of yours didn't turn up any other page using it as the "original" name of Donkey Kong. The article is actually about the various explanations on why a game featuring a monkey was called "Donkey" Kong.
What was your point again? I just don't understand that argument.
I'm glad you said you don't mind that we don't believe you. Your insistance had left with the opposite impression.
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